SHORT-TERM & LONG-TERM SIDE EFFECTS FROM ETS SURGERY

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Endoscopic thoracic sympathectomy (ETS) surgery is made out to be a safe procedure on most surgeons' websites with typical short-term dissatisfaction rates for hand sweating patients quoted as being less than five percent. From my years of experiences of having: talked to or e-mailed a large number of ETS patients; reading personal blogs and websites on the web regarding this subject; and checking out forums and reddit threads from people who underwent this surgery; the dissatisfaction rate is significantly higher in the long run. The biggest reason is due to the side effect of compensatory sweating (CS), though most surgeons do not divulge a number of changes to your body that can often occur in the longer term.

Endoscopic Thoracic Sympathectomy Side Effects

ETS Surgery Techniques

Until 2010 or so, a T-2 sympathectomy was the procedure of choice to cure hand sweating, facial sweating and facial blushing. The cut was a little higher for facial blushing (closer to T-1), but ultimately you stopped the signals arising from T-2 for all three of these conditions. In the more distant past, surgeons even cut T-2, T-3 and T-4 for hand sweating. Nowadays, most surgeons cut T-3 or T-4 to treat palmar hyperhidrosis. This seems to have reduced the most common side effect of compensatory sweating. It seems like more significant types of upper body nervous system signaling (including to the heart) arise from the upper portion of the thoracic cavity (i.e., T-1 and T-2).

Check out the portion of the website where I discuss the evolution of ETS surgery and confusion regarding so many different ETS techniques. Surgeons have managed to personalize their own variety of ETS, sometimes for marketing purposes. Some prefer cauterizing the nerves, others prefer clamping or clipping them, and a few try to still remove the entire ganglion. In the past, some placed a lot of emphasis on finding and destroying kuntz nerves, but this is not given as much importance these days. Some cut or clamp the ganglion at slightly different levels above the designated thoracic rib number. And some still prefer destroying T-2 to stop palmar hyperhidrosis, though seem to now prefer T-3 or T-4.

Many people make a very fast decision to have ETS. A quick 1-hour (30 minutes per side) minor surgical procedure that often doesn't even require overnight stay sounds miraculous. However, this surgery can sometimes lead to long-term turmoil on the internal networking of your body. After all, there must be an evolutionary reason as to why the sympathetic nerve chain is in a location where it can never be damaged unlike virtually all other components of your body. Humans can easily damage external parts of their bodies through physical injury. In addition, most internal organs such as the brain, heart, kidney, liver, and lung can be damaged by cancer, diet, drinking, drugs, smoking, pollution and more. However, to my knowledge, the sympathetic nervous system (or more specifically, the thoracic ganglions) can almost never be physically damaged without surgical intervention. This is because the ganglions are located deep inside the chest and made up in a rope like manner that cannot break easily. A bad diet, smoking, drinking and other such bad life choices cannot damage the sympathetic nervous system.

Successful Outcomes and Overcoming Side Effects

Having said all that, ETS is a last resort option that is almost a surefire cure for your palmar (and facial) hyperhidrosis. However, I firmly believe that there is an extremely strong chance of curing hyperhidrosis using one or a combination of the numerous alternative methods available that are outlined on this website (and discussed in the forums). But you have to be persistent with such treatments, while ETS when successful is a one-and-done solution.

If you have already had hyperhidrosis surgery and are still reading this page, I hope that I have not turned you into a hypochondriac who starts imagining that every possible physical problem you have is due to sympathetic nervous system destruction. Some medical problems and negative changes to your body could be part of aging or part of your genetic destiny. There are several sites out there that blame ETS surgery for every possible medical condition on earth, and they are even more damaging than the surgeons' sites that make it sound like ETS is an easy side effect free answer to your sweating problems.

Moreover, I have talked with a few happy people who had open surgical sympathectomy many decades ago to cure hyperhidrosis. They had numerous ganglions removed along with major bleeding and other significant trauma during and after the more extensive open surgery. These people are enjoying their life and old age despite the side effects they had to deal with all their lives. In the end, willpower can often overcome most side effects.

Update: June 26, 2023

In a recent NY Times article about excessive sweating, the reader comments are especially interesting. I am pasting the screenshot of my favorite one below. This reader had both cervical and lumbar sympathectomies for his/her hand and feet sweating almost 50 years ago. Insane that in his/her early 70s, this person is still interested in the subject and posting an online newspaper comment. A cervical sympathecomy is in the neck region and even higher up than a thoracic sympathectomy. Perhaps they sometimes used to do the former decades ago for hyperhidrosis? Or this reviewer just got an incorrect name given to him/her? In any case, this just shows that you can live a normal life even decades after a highly invasive open sympathectomy with major and numerous ganglion destruction. Note that the cervical region vertebrae are labeled from C1-C7; the thoracic region goes from T1-T-12; and the lumbar region goes from L1-L5.

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